Saturday, April 21, 2012

when are we vasjh/kael ready ?

Hi,

My guild is Gardiens du lys on Zul'jin. We just killed A'lar this week (about 8-9th try). Only Solarian(should be easy) is left before the 2 big bosses.

I'd like advice on how we should be geared before we attempt Vasjh and Kael. I think we could attempt it now, but some people in my guild disagree and think we should farm and gear ourselves more in T5 before.

Most of us are already geared full epic with a mix of T4/T5/equivalents.

What did you do when you first started on those bosses, farmed a lot before ?|||grrr alliance...had a couple of your guys try to gank me in nagrand the other day.

id say try it, see how it goes! if anything you fail, and the guild bank takes a 100g repair hit...but wow is all about the experience so give it a shot!|||If you have to ask, you're not ready

I'd say, get Solarian and Al'ar down solidly.

They're both far easier. Solarian especially is a joke.

Then, once you've cleared SSC consistently and have time to spare, get started on Vashj.

It's essentially pointless to go in with only 45 minutes of raid time remaining - you won't come even close to seeing what the fight is like in 2 attempts.|||go there ASAP.

these fights are very much about coordination. practice will replace gear. Start now.|||Quote:








go there ASAP.

these fights are very much about coordination. practice will replace gear. Start now.




Can't say I agree. You definitely want a full night on Vashj (or at most one boss remaining) because it will take people a few attempts before they even know what the hell is going on in phase 2.

Going in at the end of the night is just not going to do anything other than being able to go "Oh ! Cool ! The bridge animation rocks ! And then we got our collective arses kicked".|||The OP or twoflower didn't say anything about only having time to try the bosses at the end of clearing nights. You still have a point though Aerath, and I agree with you and twoflower. Go there the first chance you can schedule a full raid day for either boss. You'll notice if you need more gear, like hp for tank on Kael, aoe dps, whatever.|||You will have to chose what to focus on in the end. Vanilla wow was easy in this matter as getting better meant you had more time left over to try the next boss, but here we're really talking about 2 instances at the same level. We ended up skipping TK to focus on Vasjh in the end. With our schedule clearing Solarian, VR and Alar took a lot of time from Vashj attempts.

Solarian is a jokeboss really. Clearing the trash is more annoying and timeconsuming than the actual encounter. Getting Vasjh on farm is a lot more rewarding and as Twoflower said, it's about coordination. All the gear in the world won't help you if people don't get their stuff right. Clearing up to Vasjh and then doing TK if you have a subpar raid next time could be an idea I guess.|||Quote:








The OP or twoflower didn't say anything about only having time to try the bosses at the end of clearing nights. You still have a point though Aerath, and I agree with you and twoflower. Go there the first chance you can schedule a full raid day for either boss. You'll notice if you need more gear, like hp for tank on Kael, aoe dps, whatever.




Entirely true - he didn't say anything about it. But I hazard the guess that if it took 'em 8 tries to get Al'ar down they most likely need a fair bit of time in SSC still to clear the bosses before Vashj. Whilst I don't want to detract from a first-kill, it means that they only just 'finished' the rest of SSC and then went TK.|||yeah, of course i dont mean that you should scedule 30 minutes sessions. But pick one of the 2 final bosses, and concentrate on him/her. I'd suggest Vash, to be honest. As soon as you have cleared the reat of the instance, go for her. Dont waste your time on TK, T5 shoulders are not important. Important is that you get some quality time with Lady Vash :)

of course you will take less and less time to get to her, so you will get more practice time every week. Dont even go to TK till you have her down.|||Quote:








Entirely true - he didn't say anything about it. But I hazard the guess that if it took 'em 8 tries to get Al'ar down they most likely need a fair bit of time in SSC still to clear the bosses before Vashj. Whilst I don't want to detract from a first-kill, it means that they only just 'finished' the rest of SSC and then went TK.




Sounds about right now that you mention it.

Focus on SSC. Vashj will probably take 2-4 weeks to learn depending on how much you raid, i.e you have to clear SSC 2-4 times anyway while learning, which is more than enough farming.

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