Wednesday, April 18, 2012

BT resist gear?

I see for upcoming boss in black temple (and heard something about trash) that you need the crafted shadow resistance gear.

Do you honestly need a full 365 resistance cap, with all crafted items for every member who plans to raid? Or are 3-4 things with a green here and there acceptable?

How to get SO MANY hearts of darkness? If their anything like vortex drops, this will take 10 years. If every single raiding member needs a full crafted set.... oh my|||Try to get atleast 300 buffed SR with greens if needed, lower than that and the healing gets more and more intense. There's also the Flask of Chromatic Wonder that adds 35 resistance. Make the cloak, boots and bracers for everyone, then have people put 20SR from Lower City on some old helm and buy SR rings and you should be set.

There's no resistances needed on the trash, but your mana users can and should use the same SR gear on Anetheron, Kaz'rogal and Azgalor. The hearts drop very often btw, and you should need only 100-130 of them to make enough gear. You can always farm the Mother trash or Hyjal waves for them if needed.|||no need for trash.

big need for mother.

you dont want greens in your raid. get the epic recipies. craft all of them except the pants, which take 3 hearts each. With the rest of the stuff crafted, the BT amu and the proper enchants you come up to 300 resi which is enugh.

yes, farmin hearts takes some weeks. but till you have hyjal cleared and BT cleared up to mother, you will have alot of trash farmin ahead of you.

do not go for green resi items. you want to reach 300 resi on EVERY player with as little pieces as possible. 4 + BT amu maximum. You want normal pots, not resi pots, since the fight will be hard enugh as it is. Healers will have a severely crippeled manareg and manapool, every second the fight lasts the wipe becomes more and more inevitable.|||Well it's not exactly a hard fight, the greens and resi flasks will only prolong it slightly. Which is still of course risky, but it's better than farming trash for weeks just to get enough hearts for all the epic pieces. Think it took us 7 tries max to kill her the first time, with everyone wearing pretty much what I described earlier and many people using the resi flasks.

Guess it'll depend on how fast you progress in BT as to what kind of gear you'll be able to craft for that encounter.|||Quote:








I see for upcoming boss in black temple (and heard something about trash) that you need the crafted shadow resistance gear.

Do you honestly need a full 365 resistance cap, with all crafted items for every member who plans to raid? Or are 3-4 things with a green here and there acceptable?




For Mother Sharhraz (sp?), you need to be at the cap, after buffs. Factor in prayer of shadow protections and druid buff. You need to be able to get to the cap without fail for the whole raid. However, it's not that bad- the BT craftables are very good- you augment the cloak with a major shadow prot enchant. You can also use a spare head item with the lower city enchant on it- this will allow you to drop one of the smaller craftables. Also, don't forget that you get a shadow resist neck for attuning to BT. I don't wear the full shackled souls set for this fight, as I have +10 SR racial, and the lower city enchant on the ZA mail healing helm. I sure as hell don't take a resistance flask- that would just be stupid. You want as much healing power and DPS as possible. Dead boss does no damage. Every raid member should be smart enough to optimise their gear to hit the cap buffed while maximising their performance.

The raid doesn't need to worry about resist gear until this boss. You'll get plenty of hearts of darkness from BT and MH meantime. Mother is sufficiently far into BT that you'll not be facing her the first week. You'll have downed Bloodboil before taking her on, which is non-trivial.

If you're up to Mother in BT, you shouldn't be wearing greens. Period. This isn't Karazhan, you need to have a raid performing well. She's not a hard boss at all, if everyone's resist gear is up to snuff. WRT resist pots, you can drop a cauldron and have everyone drink a pot just before the pull, which gives you a slight buffer at the start, and means that healers can start potting early- which they might well need to do, as they will be gimped by resist gear. For the love of Bob and all his kittens, don't try and use greens though. It's false economy- it will make what should be a really easy fight into a total wipefest. Phase one of this fight is getting your gear made. Have your people start farming the metric assloads of primal shadow that they'll need when you down Kael'Thas. This will give them loads of time to be ready. Meantime, don't let people use hearts of darkness for crafting misc gear from the plans that drop in BT and MH, keep them just for resist gear until you have this covered for all your raiders.

Oh, and have fun- when you get that far into BT, it's kinda cool :)|||Well thank you much.

I did find the whole recipe lists on the item sites. The thing is, if you understood how long we skipped hydross simply because TANKS didnt have their resist gear finished, you would know why I am worried about FORTY raiders =/

Sure M.S. is far away right now but if we get the guild talking about it NOW I hope hope hope we don't get stuck in that position.|||Don't sweat it, it will be fine- honestly. As I said above, have them start farming for shadow gear when you down Kael'Thas. If your raiders are dedicated and organised enough to do this (it's a surprisingly complex fight, but totally doable, don't worry), they should be easily motivated enough to farm the shadows at that point. Having cleared both the t5 endbosses shows a certain level of determination :) Hell, I am the world's worst farmer, and I got all my shadow gear farmed up (bar the hearts, of course) in two or three evenings.

It's not as if they won't have plenty of time, either. You can easily down Kael, and then got to MH to drop rage, and kill your first three BT bosses (Najentus, Supremus, Akama) on the first visit, sure. However, it will take a little longer to get past Bloodboil and Reliquary of Souls. Much heart-dropping trash will die before you avail yourself of the shadowy charms of MS :)|||Talk your guild's engineers. They can easily farm 20 Primal Shadows in a couple days by just flying around SMV.

In guild trade/sale etc should easily get started by them. Have everyone donate 10 primal shadows to the guild bank for the crafted cloaks etc.

No donation, no cloak, no mother for you.

You can get your herbalists to donate 10 primal lifes instead.

Since the cloak requires two of each, it'll give you a bit of leeway.|||Primal Shadow:

Netherstorm. Around Manaforge..whatever, far east near the ethereals base.

lots of void mobs, good droprate. I farmed a *ton* there on my hunter just flying in a loop around the Manaforge & chainslaughtering the voids.

If you really are worried about hearts, check AH or other guilds that have the content on farm and see if you can buy cheap from them... We cut a deal with one guild to take a few of their alts on Kael/Vashj kills to attune them in trade for a lot of hearts.|||I cant seem to get to cap without the crafted legs. Am I missing something? Someone said "except the legs..." right? Hmm

40 Cape

40 Bracers

54 Belt

54 Boots

40 Medallion of Karabor

20 Helm Glyph

15 Blue Cape Enchant

70 Prayer of Shadow Protection

333 Shadow Resist Total

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