My first 25 man

Wow! Lurker is one mean SOB.

I have to say that why a group would take me (no epics) to SSC, I have no friggin idea. 9 wipes. Lowest we got that thing was 52% health.

It doesn't take but one little mistake to cause a complete wipe.

I had off island duty. Here are my mistakes:

Spouted on first round (1st wipe)

Freeze Trap resisted (3rd wipe)

Disco'd due to rainstorm (4th wipe)

Got spouted after 1st reemerge (5th wipe)

We changed tactics here (sheeping all 3 inner island mobs, we were originally trying to kill all adds prior to reemerging)

Got spouted again (7th wipe)

I was only in the last group to die 2/9 wipes.

I'd never been to an instance/raid where we weren't supposed to just kick ass and win. I was surprised to hear the raid leader say that 52% was a record. Not sure if it's just me but killing it would be the goal, not getting down to a certain % of life.

All in all, had a blast even paying the repair bill.|||well, before you kill it you get it down step by step. for bosses with more than one phase it can even be a goal to reach the next stage with one person less dead, then again with one less dead person, then again and so on till all are alive for stage 2, then you go from there and try to reach stage 3 etc...

learning a boss is complicated ( well, depending on the boss of course ).

lurker is consideret the easiest boss in T5 instances, so you will have alot of fun ahead of you :)|||To me,

Void reaver is a lot easier than Lurker with the adds, the beams, etc.

Void, even if you get hit by that stupid arcane bubble, you can still manage to survive a few times...

But yeah, lots of fun ;)

MoRRoW|||Well... Dying to spout 3 times means you need to work a bit on paying attention and/or have a boss mod that alerts you that it's about to happen. Then... GET IN THE WATER! This goes for the whole raid. There are other things you can do (you can run around ahead of it for example) but getting in the water so you're swimming is 100% guaranteed to have you not die.

Dying is unavoidable in WoW, but please don't be that person who dies repeatedly to silly avoidable things.|||Reminds me of The Matrix:

"What if he makes it?"

"Everybody falls their first time"

(or something like that anyway )|||Quote:








I was surprised to hear the raid leader say that 52% was a record.




hear? so you were in vent, then theres no reason for so many spout deaths, dang, you dont need epics to fall in the water on command, thats pretty simple stuff



keep the center adds sheeped imo|||Quote:








Dying is unavoidable in WoW, but please don't be that person who dies repeatedly to silly avoidable things.




dying unavoidable ? i cannot agree. there are only very very few situations where dying would be unavoidable, like in a raid where 5 of the 7 healers all a sudden have WoW crash.

if you know the boss tactic and have situational awarenes there is not much that can surprise you in wow.|||Quote:








hear? so you were in vent, then theres no reason for so many spout deaths, dang, you dont need epics to fall in the water on command, thats pretty simple stuff



keep the center adds sheeped imo




Yes, I was in vent. Yes, there was no reason for that many spout deaths. 2x I died, I was inches from the water and the other time there was no vent warning. There was the warning on the screen though so not having a voice warning was no excuse.

Our sheepers were dying pretty quick. We always lost 1 sheeper before the 2nd round of adds. One wipe, our tank died 10 seconds into the fight. It was chaotic but was fun. I'd look forward to doing another raid. Hopefully one a little easier if there is such a thing to get my feet wet.|||I'm not even sure if Maulgar and Gruul are easier than Lurker and tbh I can't really remember as I've done Gruul and Maulgar in a pug, but not SSC. If you can do the trash on the way to Lurker you should be able to get him down really.

The things I can think off that typically would wipe people are

geyser- "Lurker targets a random player dealing 3238-3762 Frost damage as well as all players within a 10 yard radius while knocking them back 10 yards."

Caused by people being too close to each other. Even on the outer islands.

The adds that spawn on the inner ring have a powerful cleave. They need to be turned around so they have their backs to where Lurker spawns. Have a tank ready at each spot when they spawn. Nobody should be doing anything to them or be close to them before they are safely positioned. Never tried sheeping them but cleaves combined with shots from the other adds probably is what kills your mages.

The adds on the outer islands can be chainfeared while you kill them as they'll stay in place anyway. Sheep one and spam fear on the other one while you nuke it down.

You really have to avoid the spouts. There's no excuse for being hit. Jump in the water a bit earlier to be on the safe side if needed. If you're on an island simply step into the water and keep doing damage. You don't need to dive.

Get a boss mod if you don't have one. I prefer Bigwigs over Deadly boss mods. Killing all the adds before he reemerges doesn't require a lot of gear tbh. What people are doing and how groups are sorted is a much bigger factor than gear.

Good luck on your next advenures :)|||Twoflower - you're right. I meant, in general, that you die in this game, esp as you learn how to deal with new things - it's not a huge deal as long as you learn.

OP - Spout has an animation. You can SEE it. Once you know that you want to be in the water when spout is coming your way then.. get in the damn water when it starts! Yes you take water damage... big deal. Bandage yourself and you'll mitigate most of that. You can continue to dps even - all that you have to do is hop into the water...

BTW - grats on the first 25 man. They're very different than kara and five mans and a lot of fun. But you WILL wipe and die a lot if your raid is learning the boss. Be prepared for that and don't let it get you down.